Cleobury Mortimer 1/10/2010

Just to confirm final arrangements for the game on 1/10/2010. - All golfers also notified by PM.

Please arrive at least 15 minutes before your tee time so that I can collect £20 from you. For those of you that have a buggy it will be £28 each total.

There is one buggy left for hire, first to email me secures - it is 27 holes.

The event is a 27 hole better ball pairs competition off 3/4 HCP. Lowest net score takes the honours!

After playing 9 holes, light lunch in the clubhouse then out for 18.  Not sure which course we are on first, to be confirmed on the day.

Groups as follows - please no requests for changes unless there is a valid reason.

  Group 19:30amPhil NewtonWayne SantoriniTim HawkinsGroup 29:38amChris SalterMarc DaviesDennis DipplePaul TomkinsonGroup 39:46amMartin MillichipStuart LawsDarren MillichipChris PerryGroup 49:54amJohn PettittBuggyDave LeyDai RobertsLewis YoungGroup 510:00amDavid HomerBuggyJohn FloodJulian KellyPaul JonesBuggy

Due to players dropping out, the first group is a three ball. They will also be playing better ball as a three but each member must put a score down on at least 5 holes.

If we are able to secure a final player for the day, they will be in the first group and normal service will commence!

See you there on Friday the 1st.

Happy Golfing.

Really happy to be paired up with my mucker JP  can't understand why Martin and Darren are not pairerd up

Getting towards Autumn Dave, with plenty of leaves about. Don't know what Daz will do if he comes across some in a bunker. I would be worried about his mental health with all those feelings flooding back.

Dave,

I've spoken to the green keeper & he's going to put some pellets down to get rid of the slugs on the day  

UH OH SZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

"leaves, bunkers, zzzzzzzzzz"

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

oh wait it was just a bad dream

Must go and see my pyschotherapist

wooooosaaaaaaaaaaa, wooooosaaaaaaaaaaa

I like cleobury.

The lodges there are nice, and very reasonable.

The 6th on Badgers is my fav hole.

As Darren's playing with me I'll be stood over him in a menacing manner holding a 6 iron if ever his ball goes into a bunker.  And it'll be his 6 iron

If he should go in the bunker and there are leaves I shall let him remove a leaf. 

When we get to the green and he thinks he has won the hole I shall inform him has broken the rule regarding loose impediments and promptly inform him he has lost the hole. We then walk to the next tee.

Does this sound familiar Dave ?????? 

With his head in the shed  well he did say all night that matchplay was no different to stroke play i remember.

can i just remind you martin as well that most of the holes won or halved that day were by me as you were playing pants!!!!

mind you though i will say most of your shots went further than 20yards  

also as you are in my group and so is perry i will also be holding the 6 iron and shoving up both you a**e to get a move on, i aint having now slooooooooooooooooooooooooow play with me

Hey Darren you would be advised to take one of these to use while waiting for Captain Sow and the Slug. They've even designed one for Captain slow whilst waiting for the Slug.

I have a salt cellar and pellets in my bag to deal with slow play.

Robert Nutt has joined the group so numbers are now even

Group 1

9:30am

Phil Newton

Robert Nutt

Wayne Santorini

Tim Hawkins

Group 2

9:38am

Chris Salter

Marc Davies

Dennis Dipple

Paul Tomkinson

Group 3

9:46am

Martin Millichip

Stuart Laws

Darren Millichip

Chris Perry

Group 4

9:54am

John Pettitt

Buggy

Dave Ley

Dai Roberts

Lewis Young

Group 5

10:00am

David Homer

Buggy

John Flood

Julian Kelly

Paul Jones

Buggy

Thanks to David for allowing my late entry, looking forwrd to meeting some fellow Golf Shakers.

David, are you running a 2's comp?

everyone puts in £1 and the pot is then shared equally amongst the players whp record a 2 on their card.

in the event of no winners donate the money to the air ambulance or another good cause.

one more thing. playing of 3/4 handicap, is that for the 27 holes or just the afternoon 18?

Robert, I think the plan is to ask if players want to put £2 each into a pot & then the best team stableford wins it.

With handicaps the 3/4's will apply over the 27 holes. For example if your hcap is 20 you will receive 15 shots. You will get 7 on the first 9 holes SI 1 to 7 & then 8 on the 2nd 9 holes SI 1 to 8. On the last 9 you will repeat the method for the 1st 9. This only applies to odd handicaps.

This is the way I have always played 27 holes.

Hi Guys Its a pairs better ball comp. Lowest net score wins over 27 holes. Odd 3/4 handicaps to receive extra shot on first 9 only.

For example im off 20 so 15. I will get 8 shots first nine and 7 other 9's.

If you all want to put a couple of quid in the pot tomorrow for the winner, thats fine by me. I wouldnt mind if someone else took the mantle for this as Ill be sorting out payments etc when we all arrive.

Thanks and see you tomorrow - PS there is one spare buggy left if any pair is interested.

Guys,

Lets just think about something else. Just because the 3 nines have indexes 1-9 the players with odd handicaps lose a shot.

I think a fairer way of doing it is to say that on the 9 holes in the morning 3/4 handicap allowances are halved therefore using the example above 15 becomes 7.5 and is therefore receives 8 shots. Then in the afternoon "18" they get 8 shots on first nine and 7 shots on second nine.

My point is that they would be potentially losing a shot on the 9 holes in the AM where as a player who has an even 3/4 handicap allowance gets his full shots.

You cannot distinguish between any nine where the "odd" and "even" indexes would be.

I am sure that all the "odd" handicap players would be disappointed to "lose" a shot just because the indexing goes against them. 

David. If everybody agrees i will help out and collect £2 of each player during lunch break. then the winning pair can get some of their costs back.

Wishing evryone a safe journey, see you there. 

Martin, they wouldn't lose a shot in the morning if Dave's method is used, it would be lost on the last 9. As its a 2 ball betterball it shouldn't make a huge difference? I'm not bothered either way

It's been set up & advertised as a 27 hole comp. You'd need to gauge everybody elses opinion ondonations.

IMO doesn't matter if shot is lost in the morning or the afternoon. Te odd handicapped players STILL lose a shot because even and odd indexes are not recognised.

Again I stress players with even handicaps DO NOT LOSE OUT. They get their full allowance 

Only your virginity Waynetta !!!!!!!!!!!! lol

I would say your hair but................... Martin, sort it out with Dave tomorrow I'm sure he'll accommodate the majority.

as it is a 2 ball betterball i dont really think 1 shot would make the slightest bit of difference.

as we discussed earlier martin i do agree with you to a point as if a certain 9 holes would have been odd stroke indexes then yes you would lose a shot but then on the other side if they were even you wouldnt.

but then this is where the confusion starts, how do you differentiate between which nine should be the even and which should be the odd stroke indexes

personally to be fair to everyone we should have the morning 9 as a warm up then the aternoon nines as a 18 hole comp but hey what do i know

but then if dave has posted the rules then why should we be arguing as we all know rules are rules!!!!!!!

after all it is only 1 shot!!!!

I say full handicap but split across 27, not 18.  So if a player is off 18, he gets 6 strokes on each 9.  In the case of handicaps not divisible by 3, the shots come on the earliest 9 holes.  So: -

18 hcap - 1st 9 = 6 strokes, 2nd 9 = 6 strokes, 3rd 9 = 6 strokes

17 hcap - 1st 9 = 6 strokes, 2nd 9 = 6 strokes, 3rd 9 = 5 strokes

16 hcap - 1st 9 = 6 strokes, 2nd 9 = 5 strokes, 3rd 9 = 5 strokes

Not quite 3/4 I know (actually 2/3), but I think the easiest way to work it

thanks for organising the day David, and thanks to Phil, Wayne and Tim for putting up with me.

shame about the weather but hopefully better kuck next time

It was a pleasure to meet fellows shakers