Callaway Handicapping System !!!!!
CALLAWAY HANDICAPPING
It frequently occurs in social competitions such as office or business association outings that many of the competitors do not have official handicaps. In such cases the best solution is to use the Callaway Handicapping system, so called after its inventor, as it is simple to use yet has proved equitable.
Competitors complete their round marking in their gross figures at every hole and their handicaps are awarded and deducted at the end of the 18 holes using the following guide:
Competitors Gross Score Handicap Deduction
Par or less...............................none
One over par – 75...................½ worst hole
76 – 80...................................worst hole
81 – 85...................................worst hole plus ½ next worse
86 – 90..................................two worst holes
91 – 95..................................two worst holes plus ½ next
96 – 100................................three worst holes
101 – 105..............................three worst holes plus ½ next
106 – 110..............................four worst holes
111 - 115..............................four worst holes plus ½ next
116 - 120.............................five worst holes
121 – 125.............................five worst holes and ½ next
126 – 130............................six worst holes
Note 1; Worst hole equals highest score at any hole regardless of the par of the hole except that the maximum score allowed for any hole is twice the par of the hole.
Note 2; The 17th & 18th holes are not allowed to be deducted.
Example: Competitor score 104. From the table he should deduct as his handicap the total of his three worst (i.e. highest) individual hole score plus half of his fourth worst hole. If he scored one 9, one 8 and several 7’s he would therefore deduct a total of 27 ½ from his gross score of 104 to give him a net score of 76 ½Last edit : Fri 25th Jun 2010 15:35
Reply : Fri 25th Jun 2010 21:59
This needs to be elaborated further and clarified / simplified
Like I played in Ryan's daughter and my name is John Mills
This is new and I feel this thread deserves more and more comments !
Reply : Fri 25th Jun 2010 22:04
I presume we are we talking about medal scoring here
PS I've just returned from watching Footers at my local so I may be a tad thick !
Reply : Fri 25th Jun 2010 22:06
Chris,
You would have got 3 shots for net 70. Unless that worst hole was 17 or 18 and then you would have to take your next worst
Reply : Fri 25th Jun 2010 22:24
Interesting, my last round would have given me a 16 handicap.
Reply : Fri 25th Jun 2010 22:51
wait now - I score 92 (by definition given stablelford equation and only recording minimum bogeys and only recording that minimum score not giving you a point)
my two worst holes not allowing medal specific but are 6 on a par 3 and 8 on a par 5
this is where I've lost this thread !
Wayne you may and may well be entitled to call me a tosser for not understanding all of this
but I don't understand - so tell me to go and suck oranges and read romantic novels in my back garden - if you wish !
Reply : Fri 25th Jun 2010 23:08
ps I've had a few - and I may not be be too far removed from John Mills in Ryan's Daughter
so respond (or not) accordingly !
Reply : Sat 26th Jun 2010 06:47
ok if i read this system right
my last round was a gross 80 on a par 71 (playing of 11 i scored 38pts stableford and a net 69), using the callaway system
76-80 = worst hole in my case i would say that was the bogey 6 on a par 5 rather than the double bogey 5 on a par 3
thus giving me a net 74 = 80-(worst hole) 6
which equates to 3 over par
looking at this method then it only works on individual rounds played and therefore cannot be used to have a handicap as the adjustments are made after every round played
i suppose it could benefit some societies who's members are not affiliated with any club and therefore do not have an "official" handicap. which should stop any bandits if the procedure is follwed correctly
bearing in mind this is just my own interpretation of the system!!!!
i am sure wayne will correct me if i am wrong
Reply : Sat 26th Jun 2010 06:53
colin
going off your previous post, if you scored 92 then you would need to deduct your 2worst holes + 1/2 the next worst hole, also going on what you posted maximum bogey exept for the 2 scores posted)
6 on the par 3
8 on the par 5
1/2 of (will use a par 5 as example) bogey 6 on par 5 =3
which would give you a reduction on your score of 92 of 17 shots giving you a net 75
i think
Last edit : Sat 26th Jun 2010 06:53
Reply : Sat 26th Jun 2010 12:30
As we all know the handicap system is not fair enough to enable everyone to cross the line together because it is far easier for the high handicap player to knock shots off than it is for the low handicap player.
Social events, like office outings etc, should be played level thus producing a winner who was the best plaer on the day.
Why we tend to cater for those who cannot play or refuse to improve, I shall never know. Perhaps a return to the days when 24 hadicap was the highest one could have and then one required better than this standard to get into a club. After all they are called Golf Clubs, not hacker clubs.
As to this Callaway system, I doubt that it is a fair one either.
Reply : Sat 26th Jun 2010 14:39
and you lose a shot duduction for every par you score.
You have hit the nail on the head there, Ray and I totally agree. Handicap should be based on the number of pars/birdies in a round.
This would then put an end to those on here who continually brag about shooting six to eight pars a round yet still masquerade under a handicap of 20 plus. This why you see 40 points with three blobs on the card.
Reply : Sat 26th Jun 2010 21:50
John, I agree totally, handicap should be 18 for a max for a man. I am embarrassed to be off 20 at the moment but that is what I have scored under medal conditions. Hopefully it will slide soon as I'm playing much better lately.
Reply : Sat 26th Jun 2010 23:22
If you need any help, David, just holler.
Reply : Tue 29th Jun 2010 23:03
Although I agree in principle to the theory regarding el banditos. The society I help run monitors handicaps every single round they play. All members put cards in, either in the competition or a knock about with mates. The system works very well & although recently one of our players has been outstanding. His handicap has fallen from a genuine 28 to 20.1 inside four months & he is happy to be getting close to what he calls a decent player!
I also play with a few guys some of which play reasonably regularly, that unfortunately do not quite have the natural abilty to play golf very well. The 28 handicappers & there are only four at this moment do play to 28, in fact normally finishing well down the board.
they get a smile on their faces just scoring a few points, realistically not troubling the better golfers.
so you see from this angle although the handicap system is open to argument some people get just a little more pleasure from it!